F1 groups agree revised black and orange flag ideas with FIA

The FIA and the Formulation groups have reached settlement on tweaks to using orange and black flags after the Fernando Alonso controversy from Austin.

Alonso was handed a 30 second time penalty post-race in Austin after Haas lodged a protest that he was not proven the black and orange technical flag after sustaining harm in a high-speed shunt with Lance Stroll.

The Alpine driver was in a position to proceed with the suitable wing mirror flapping round earlier than it fell off, however regardless of Haas informing race management of the scenario twice, the Spaniard was not referred to as in to rectify the issue.

Guenther Steiner’s crew wished consistency within the laws after their driver Kevin Magnussen had been referred to as into the pits a number of occasions in 2022 for minor harm to the entrance wing.

Though the stewards allowed the protest regardless of it being lodged too late, a reconvention in Mexico Metropolis threw out Haas’s protest that means Alonso’s seventh place was reinstated.

A protracted-time a part of the rulebook, the black and orange flag has been scarcely utilized in latest occasions, solely coming to prominence once more in 2022 with Magnussen and Yuki Tsunoda being recipients.

Throughout a gathering between crew managers/sporting administrators and the FIA in Mexico the events agreed modified procedures for the flag’s deployment.

New black and orange flag guidelines

RacingNews365.com understands that two choices have been introduced to the groups about using what is named the ‘meatball’ flag.

Possibility one was to proceed with the present process, specifically to let the FIA itself proceed to police flying the flag or not, whereas the second was to let the groups determine for themselves on whether or not their vehicles are harmful.

Within the latter occasion the onus can be on the groups to behave responsibly the place they consider a automobile has suffered vital influence and to determine whether or not it ought to have the ability to proceed or be referred to as in for consideration.

It’s believed that the groups really feel they’re in a greater place to guage the protection of the automobile with all the telemetry, information and sensors at their disposal to determine any potential areas of concern.

A full examine of the automobile will then observe to find out whether or not it’s in a secure situation to renew the race.

Ought to crew not name of their vehicles in situations the place the FIA believes them to be in a probably harmful situation, the governing physique would set off the black and orange flag.

RacingNews365.com understands {that a} report into the matter of black and orange flags has been requested by FIA President Mohammed ben Sulayem within the hope of a correct regulatory framework being drawn up.

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Alpine react to new guidelines

“We had some very optimistic discussions yesterday with the FIA technical division,” Alpine sporting director Alan Permane instructed media together with RacingNews365.com.

“I believe they agreed that issues have gone a little bit bit too far.

“I do not suppose anybody aside from Haas felt that having a mirror knocked off in an accident that wasn’t your fault [should merit the flag.]”

“From right here onwards, small damages like a mirror, like a entrance wing endplate, whether it is non-structural like a brake duct, it won’t be thought of to be a black and orange flag offence.

“It’s nonetheless occurring on the Technical and Sporting Advisory Committees, and we’ll focus on it extra a little bit bit down the road, however a line within the sand has been drawn.

“Hopefully there will be higher due to it.”

Precedent Alpine referred to as on

A part of Alpine’s defence towards the Alonso penalty was from the 2019 Japanese Grand Prix, the place each Charles Leclerc and Lewis Hamilton misplaced mirrors.

Falling particles from Leclerc’ Ferrari knocked off Hamilton’s proper mirror within the early laps, however neither was given the black and orange flag and went onto end sixth and third, respectively.

“I felt that was precedent [from what happened] in Austin,” Permane defined.

“It wasn’t in any method harmful, as Fernando was being instructed the place he had somebody behind him within the closing laps.

“His engineer was telling him the hole each sector, so thrice a lap – and he positioned the automobile to see Lando from his left hand mirror.

“I believe if we undertake these pointers from Mexico onwards, we have got to a smart place.”

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